[SCC_Active_Members] Fwd: [CLASSICBOOKS] Classic Computer Science texts - request from Dave Patterson for suggestions

[Bob Fraley]

All,

I have read that Google wants to scan in all books from 3 major US 
libraries so that they can index them.  Perhaps if their program goes 
forward, the ACM could offer to scan them, and get some "scanning fee" paid 
by Google?

With all such things, there is the issue of copyright.  The ACM my get 
rights to the top dozen.  But they may not have the right to let someone 
distribute them to the general public.

Bob


At 01:58 PM 9/23/2005, Philip Gust wrote:
>Paul,
>
>I had the same thought when I saw the announcement.  We'd need to think 
>through what would be in it for the ACM and present it that way.  The 
>ACM's charter includes general education and dissemination of computing 
>knowledge.  Unfortunately, it costs money to do that, and they help fund 
>their work through enterprises line the ACM Digital Library.  We'd need to 
>present the case that this is sufficiently important to their education 
>and dissemination mission to make it publicly available outside the 
>Digital Library.  Does anyone have any thoughts on how we could make such 
>a compelling argument?
>
>At 01:28 PM 9/23/2005, Paul McJones wrote:
>>Would anyone like to join me in an appeal to make the books available to 
>>everyone, not just ACM members?  To create awareness of computer science 
>>in general, and to help young people get started towards a career in 
>>computer science, it makes sense to make the classic books available as 
>>widely as possible.  In fact, the ACM should be asking its members for 
>>money to put them back in print again, with low-cost editions available 
>>for students and people in countries not as prosperous as ours.
>>
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>
>>Philip Gust wrote:
>>
>>>I'm forwarding this email for those of you who don't get ACM 
>>>announcements.  I know that we've been discussing classic books in 
>>>conjunction with our work.
>>>
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>>>>Subject: [CLASSICBOOKS] Classic Computer Science texts - request from 
>>>>Dave Patterson for suggestions
>>>>Comments: To: "classics at acm.org" <classics at acm.org>
>>>>To: classics at ACM.ORG
>>>>
>>>>Dear ACM Member,
>>>>
>>>>ACM is launching a new initiative to revive classic, out-of-print
>>>>computer science books, with the intent to make the full text available
>>>>online to members via the PDC/DL. I'm asking you to identify the
>>>>books you believe are "classics." The suggestions I've received so far
>>>>can be viewed at http://www.acm.org/csclassics/.
>>>>
>>>>You may also nominate classic computer manuals (for example,
>>>>IBM 360 Principles of Operation, and DEC PDP-11 Handbook).
>>>>
>>>>The book must be out of print to qualify. (A book is still considered
>>>>"in print" if its fourth edition is selling despite the first edition being
>>>>no longer available).
>>>>
>>>>Please submit your comments and candidates for CS classics by
>>>>Friday, October 7, including why you think your nomination(s) qualify
>>>>as classic(s), by filling out the form at www.acm.org/csclassicspoll .
>>>>After this date we will conduct a vote, resulting in the Top 20 classic
>>>>books. You will receive another email with instructions directing you
>>>>to the Web site with the online poll.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance for your help. We believe this will be a great
>>>>service to our members!
>>>>
>>>>Dave Patterson, ACM President
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Philip Gust
>>>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>>>
>>>phone: +1 650 961-7992
>>>fax:   +1 520 843-7217
>>>
>>>
>>>mailto: gust at NouveauSystems.com
>>>
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>>
>>Philip Gust
>>Nouveau Systems, Inc.
>>
>>phone: +1 650 961-7992
>>fax:   +1 520 843-7217
>>
>>
>>mailto: gust at NouveauSystems.com
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