[SCC_Active_Members] Re: Wikipedia

[Ward Cunningham]

Bernard -- It seems to me that SCC has a corner on the collection and  
indexing of primary material, the very material that Wikipedia  
doesn't want. However wikipedians the world over would be happy to  
tell in plain language the story that these materials have to tell,  
and they have the audience. Even better, the SCC related material  
that Wikipedians produce is pre-licensed to be included in SCC  
exhibits. What a wonderful alignment of interests.

We would do well to inform Wikipedians as to the resources available  
through the SCC and likewise the collectors should be aware of the  
continuing historical work collecting on Wikipedia. I recommend the  
CHM host a joint workshop where the two groups learn about the  
strengths and weakness of each community. An agenda could include:

	1. Audience. Who is serving whom and for how long?
	2. License. Who gets to see what, when and where?
	3. Methods. How do we play to each other's strengths?
	4. Identity. How much can we share while staying ourselves in the  
world's mind?

There is probably something in there about funding models but I will  
leave that as an extension of #4. Both Wikipedia and CHM have  
infrastructure that they have to keep working.

Best regards. -- Ward

On Aug 15, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Bernard L. Peuto wrote:

> Ward
>
> I am glad to hear that and hope that we can find a smart way to do  
> it while
> still avoiding some of the pitfalls mentioned by Henry.
>
> We do need volunteers to help us get started on what should be done  
> and do
> it. Volunteer anyone?
>
> Bernard
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ward Cunningham [mailto:ward at c2.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:24 PM
>> To: Bernard L. Peuto
>> Cc: 'Tim Shoppa'; SCC_active at computerhistory.org;
>> randall.neff at gmail.com; nassi at nassi.com; LMM at acm.org;
>> aek at bitsavers.org
>> Subject: Wikipedia
>>
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Bernard L. Peuto wrote:
>>
>>> Concerning the Wikipedia. I think that we should provide a complete
>>> historical experience for our web site visitors and I would
>> not be too
>>> keen to point to other sites for the kind of content
>> commonly found in
>>> the Wikipedia. That information should be directly
>> accessible to our
>>> own visitors. Since duplicating their work would not make sense
>>> either, I would recommend that we cite them with permission.
>>
>> I think it would be awesome for SCC and Wikipedia to be
>> feeding complementary content to each other on a regular
>> basis. -- Ward
>>
>>
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