[SCC_Active_Members] History of Apple OSs

[Bernard L. Peuto]

SCC friends

Despite some misgivings about it, should we preserve a  copy of this history
(with proper authorization) or should we pass on it?

Bernard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: scc_active-bounces at computerhistory.org 
> [mailto:scc_active-bounces at computerhistory.org] On Behalf Of Ike Nassi
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 7:49 PM
> To: Al Kossow; Randall Neff; SCC_active at computerhistory.org
> Subject: Re: [SCC_Active_Members] History of Apple OSs
> 
> The MacMach project demonstrated feasibility on 68K around 
> 1991.   The full 
> Macintosh environment was running on it.  I demonstrated this 
> to Ed Birss and Roger Heinen (separately) and showed Excel 
> and MacMissle Command running on what appeared to be the 
> MacOS but were in fact Mach.  It was only when I launched the 
> c-shell that it became obvious what was happening.
> 
> The MkLinux project produced a working prototype of a Mach 
> 3.0 kernel running on PowerPC.  CD's were distributed with 
> all the sources at the Developers conference in 1996. Mac OSX 
> of course runs on the Mach kernel. 
> This was a necessary step in enabling the transition to x86.  
> Apple wasn't ready for it with Star Trek, and they still 
> weren't ready for it in 1996, but in 1997 after Avie came on 
> board, Mach was adopted.  Avie was one of the authors of Mach 
> as a CMU grad student.  My team worked with him on the 
> multiprocessor version back in the mid to late 80's while I 
> was at Encore.
> ---
> Ike
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Al Kossow" <aek at bitsavers.org>
> To: "Randall Neff" <randall.neff at gmail.com>; 
> <SCC_active at computerhistory.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCC_Active_Members] History of Apple OSs
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> The original 140 page history is available as a free pdf 
> from a link 
> >> at the bottom of:
> >>
> >> http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/chapter1/
> >>
> >
> > I don't think I ever had any direct contact with the 
> author, though I 
> > think he arrived at Apple in the late 90's. First thing I 
> noticed is 
> > the picture of the Apple I board and the screen shot of Neptune 
> > running on an Alto are images I created. One sentence on NuKernel, 
> > which was a project I had some peripheral involvement with 
> for about 
> > 10 years is disappointing.
> >
> > While the techies at Apple knew the OS had to be replaced since the 
> > mid 80's, it was impossible to build momentum and get the right 
> > resources to do it until well into the PowerPC era, when 
> Microsoft's 
> > products and the erosion of the Mac market put upper 
> management into 
> > panic mode.
> >
> > His comment that Apple's switch to x86 as a vindication of 
> the "Star Trek"
> > project is revisionist history. The need to switch was the fault of 
> > Moto and IBM being unwilling to develop anything Apple 
> could sell in 
> > the portable space, and IBM's disinterest in Apple in the high end 
> > desktop space.
> >
> >
> >
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